Ok this is going to be a long post….but lots of information to those that read.
Weapons Class – 6-7pm
I had some work to finish so I couldn’t leave at 530pm but I still managed to get to the weapons class with plenty of time to train and spar with the long poles.
I started off with training the chow gar mantis pole forms of Ng Hung Gwun and Duk Se Gwun – these are nice forms and have a lot of southern pole fighting techniques. I did the forms 3 times each, which can be hard to do back to back using a heavy pole and properly executing the techniques quickly (i.e. shooting and extending the pole fully when you strike, say to the throat, so the pole is being held by the end by both hands with your arms full straight out).
I do most of the training with the heavy poles which are a lot stronger and heavier than the typical white wax wood poles. I think the heavy poles must be made out of oak or a very strong and dense wood. The white poles we use when we do 2 man pole fighting, pole chongs, pole versus sai and so on.
Once I trained this toasty went to get the scaffolding pole which has been filled with cement. The length is probably about 4 foot I think and it’s made of heavy metal and filled with concrete – its weighs a hell of a lot.
A few of us trained the forms with this as best we could and with as best form as possible. The weight of this makes it very hard and difficult to perform techniques such as full length pole thrusts / strikes. In fact after a few moves the arms really burn and the bar just feels like it weighs a ton. Once you pick up the other poles though, they feel like match sticks, lol.
When not being used as a ton weighted pole a few of us use the heavy scaffold to roll up and down the shins or forearms – effective for rolling out bruises and conditioning, but very painful – I like it personally
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I also did the Dit Jek (Sai or iron rulers), 8 cutting knives and yau long gim (swimming dragon straight sword) forms.
Pole Sparring
After this toasty and I went to grab the gear for pole sparring. This is a pair of poles which have padding on just under half of the length, padded gloves, an eskrima full helmet / head gear, and padding for arms and legs – if you decide to use them.
Chas, toasty and I sparred for about 2-3 rounds each – it’s not easy and it got hot very quick – before long we were sweating and breathing heavy. The helmets and gloves aren’t comfortable but its just great fun weapon fighting and going at it with gwuns at someone’s head / body, mu ha ha ha.
I only use the headgear and gloves but I can see why you would want to use the arm pads! On my first round in the first instances toasty got a very well placed hit to the funny bone on my left arm – when that happened I got heavy pins and needles in my left hand and couldn’t move my 2-3 of my fingers – lol. I carried on without thinking but it wasn’t easy to hold the pole well.
It eventually wore off but that bone feels a little sore. I prefer using a shorter length pole and closing in on someone and than using kicks and punches – as toasty said – it really defeats the object of “pole sparring”, haha. It was good and no doubt we will do the same next week.
Southern Chow Gar Mantis Class – 7 - 8.30pm
Class started with warm ups for the legs / knees, hips, stretching and we got straight into doing the first form of Saam Bo Gin. Again with this form I can generally feel if things are connected as one unit or if they feel separate and I have to mentally connect all the parts together.
By this I mean sometimes I get days where everything is sharp, powerful and I do the form and my stance is gripped, my stomach is tensed, my ribs open and close, my elbows are in and shouders down, I am breathing well etc. Sometimes it doesn’t and it doesn’t “feel” as good as it should. This isn’t a bad thing, just my own experiences that I am sharing.
The form felt good last night and doing it properly will make you work – especially when you close each finger with tension slowly, one after the other – in the same process the ribs close, the stomach and back has tension, the legs / feet / toes / buttocks are locked. All the things I have mentioned before!
On the second occasion of doing saam bo gin I didn’t use as much tension but enough to work the joints, muscles. Oh, by tension I don’t mean full out, hard tension, the type that gets your blood pressure up or associated with, say, going all out to finish a very heavy squat. I suppose you have to train in different ways and strike a balance.
Gungs
We than did some strengthing and conditioning gungs as I have spoken about before. The Ji Lik gung with is a constant run of the opening and closing section of saam bo gin using the arms and fingers – this is done a number of times on alternative stances and works your ribs, waist, stance, neck and much much more. We also did the back training gung.
As I have said before these gungs done properly train all over with particular emphasis on a certain part of the body – give you place the right tension in the right place, hold that tension and than work against it – essentially forcing the chi through to it while building the tendons and joints.
Attack combinations and hand attacks
If my memory serves me correct we ran over san sau drills and combination attacks. We also did these at the end of the class with the names being called out in Cantonese so we learn them –
Bao Chong - (cover and attack hands)
Chung - (Elbows) striking forwards on alternate steps and then backward elbow strikes while stepping backwards left and right.
Yui Sau - (shaking off bridge) – emphasis on ribs and shooting arm out
Pai Kui - (slicing bridge – emphasis on striking with a small circular slicing motion and closing the ribs
Deng Choy - (nailing hook punches) – one phoenix eye strikes high to temple the other phoenix eye strikes low – say to the ribs.
Double Soc Sau (grabbing hand) in and out, pai kui, chung, gow choy (hammer fist)
Ying Kum (eagle claw), pull in and punch
And so on…We did a lot of these and it was funny all of us trying to perform the combos being called out in Cantonese and understanding them while stringing them together.
Lim Chung Chong
We than did partner work and 2 man chongs. Lim Chung Chong (elbow picking) and Gow Choy Chong (hammerfist). The first I did with toasty and we put effort into it and were going for each other to make us work the techniques better. Lim chung consists of a :-
Partner A:- Straight phoenix punch to shoulder pressure point (elbows down and in, shoulders down), punch and move as one unit.
Partner B: Gaa Sau (straight up block)
Partner A:- Half clockwise circle to go around the block and attack ribs
Partner B:- Lim Chung – eagle claw to partner a elbow and move across body and than finger strike or phoenix punch to bladder / stomach / ribs
Partner A:- Saw Sao (outside wing block) and simultaneous strike to partner B stomach
Partner B:- Sai Sai (deflecting spring arm) and other hand grab arm while the other goes to gow choy
Partner A:- hold out palm (represents the nose / head I guess and helps conditioning!)
I think its important that when we do two man drills we make them as live and as realistic as we can given the way we are training them – of course this depends on your partner and control. In each movement with toasty I went for him and he did the same and it really made us use out waist more and the techniques better. I may of got hit a few times but with the movement of the waist and arms the techniques power was lessened.
It’s the same for all the chongs we do….Go for your partner! Don’t punch out so you intentionally miss him, don’t punch soft so you don’t work that punch and he doesn’t work his block or technique. Of course be controlled but think about where you are hitting / striking, why the technique is being used, put it under some pressure.
Next was gow choy chong and moving man chong. I don’t have time to explain and break this down right now (but there is a clip on the site of gow choy chong), all I can say is it conditions the arms well and we did this using mouse steps with continuous attacks as well as alternate steps. The moving man chong uses steps in and out quickly while blocking and attacking.
We than had a quick water break and went with partners to work on forms, techniques, drills, sparring – depending on what you want to work on. I partnered up with chas and we conditioned the arms, back of hands, gow choys on palms, legs (we took turns in kicking each other on the thighs and calves). We than went over the 9 hands form and toasty joined in having just trained with Sifu – who gave him a deserved beating with gow choys to his palms and some moving chy sau exercise.
We than finished with some more combination attack drills. All in all another good class and I sweated and got some good training. I felt tired, arms and body was heavy, but I still summoned the energy for my one to one with Sifu.